Is Everton's 10 point penalty 'harsh and excessive'? | Soccer Saturday

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1. As Sheffield United fan I think Everton made a smart move because it’s not half though a season to get more pts

2. Why don’t we ever get the answers we want? Right now we all want to know why city aren’t being penalised.

3. Its not harsh…theyve cheated

4. The punishment was OBVIOUSY made in regard to the table. Would there not be soo poor teams in the PL and Everton would have been in bottom 3 then the points deduction would be way less. Clever played by the PL: making a statement without damaging a Club as Everton will ESAY avoid relegation.

5. Has there been any explanation by the Premier League for of the rationale for the punishment? Is it basically a case of it's a 10 point deduction simply for breaching the loss limit, no matter whether it's by £2m, £20m or £200m?

6. Well just a fine would not make sense if the offence was overspending. Any sanctions in an offence related to money cannot have money as a punishment

7. the pundits dont have a clue ,how everton got points deductions,while the likes of city ,chelsea and united are spared…can u guys explain..

8. money talks…

9. the gangsters have come in..

10. If Everton got this then Chelsea and city must be in the second Division if not then their a problem.

11. It’s fair. Let’s face it, there was talk about them breaching the cap 18 months ago when they just about stayed up and instead of Burnley. That £19.5m could have been the 3-5 points in the last couple of seasons that has kept them up and earned them an additional £100m+ per season. Makes it even worse that they play football that you’d see on a Sunday morning. Follow the rules and you’ll have nothing to worry about, many others have managed it seemingly

12. Caught red handed cooking the books so they held their hands up and expected to get away with it. Typical scousers

13. This is all quite wrong really .
    To relegate Everton and maybe even Man City due to a points reduction is not on .
    Simple all it does is to deny championship teams from a possible promotion should the offending teams play next season in the 2nd division.
    The right penalty should be financial with recompense to the leagues smaller teams who play the game properly .

14. Not harsh enough… Should be relegated

15. If Chelsea and Man City were to get relegated would people still say 10 points deduction on Everton is harsh, rules are rules but only if all clubs are treated the same I think they have used Everton as a example but if Chelsea and city get away with it then that’s where it all becomes a joke

16. Man City should have have a 10 point deduction since 2019, where is there`s?, yet Everton given 10 penalty within 6 months

17. after 12 matches, such massive deduction doesnt feel good. If it would be just after the league is over, perhaps that shows more fairness and integrity of the game.

18. Everton got 6ps from leeds last season, through fiddling the books .

19. Excessive? Everton are 4/11 to stay up. This has come at the most convenient time, it’s purposely ineffective and the same is sure to happen with City. Zero justice for those cheated into relegation. Corruption rotting the league

20. Want a fair deal across the board then do what F1 has done and set a Maximum budget for all teams

21. All for a £19 million indiscretion in the commission's eyes.
    1) The reality is that it is less than Haaland's wages per ann. A whole bunch of Premier players earn around that figure.
    2) The government scuppered a sponsorship deal because a Russian is involved.
    3) Penalised on Interest on the new stadium! That was deemed normal expenditure for Liverpool FC.

22. This is supposed to make them, the FA look good, with all the other criticism around VAR etc.

23. When is action gonna be taken against City???

24. Disagree entirely with the people who say it's too much.

    They should've been punished appropriately when they were found to have breached

    Many clubs where effected by the premier leagues slow response to getting anything done

    And now we are in this situation where 10 points feels harsh on the surface but then you consider they held off on deducting the points until the middle of a season where it's highly likely they will survive anyways due to weaker competition in Luton, Burnley and Sheffield

    Had these teams not been struggling so much or so much weaker on paper then this punishment wouldn't have happened until 'next season'

    It's a punishment that makes the EPL look ruthless but when you step back and fully observe what's happening it's clear it's been done in the most favourable way to Everton as possible

    Especially with the fact that 10 points now is more preferable to them than even a 2 point deduction would've been when they first admitted they broke the rules.

25. Everton didn’t overspend.
    Long post… be aware!
    Everton proved that they overspent by £87M, not the agreed £105M which was deemed acceptable by the Premier league.
    However, the Premier changed its rules/ findings over anything relating to infrastructure. Previously, the league stated that any business matters around infrastructure, youth development and the women’s team would not be included in FFP.
    Everton began the building of its stadium under these rules.
    The Premier league changed FFP to PSR ( profit & sustainability rules) on the 21st December 2021.
    As a result Everton’s funding of the stadium came under scrutiny, as our owner loaned the club the money for the build ( if we loaned from a bank, we wouldn’t be here today). In doing so, he was able to claim back two payments of £19.5M, thereby putting the club in an overspend of £19.5M, under the new rules.
    Because the goalposts had been moved Everton informed the Premier league of what the league could deem to be a ‘discrepancy’ in its accounting. But believed they were innocent under the old rules, which were in place when the build began.
    None of this would’ve mattered but for the Ukraine war. Everton lost its main Russian sponsor USM and £30M of funding per season. On top of this £200M of funding was in place for naming rights of the stadium by USM, but this didn’t happen. Also the investigation into Everton’s transgression of £19M didn’t take the War into account, which is incredible.
    On a side note… whilst Everton were working with the Premier league, they were under financial restrictions with regards to transfers (so punished), Something they agreed to.
    Again, in doing so, they lost players, important players, for a lot less than they were worth. They also had to let players go for free to come within the PSR rules… more money lost.
    A long comment I know but lastly.
    If Everton hadn’t complied with the PL and been secretive with them, we would’ve kept our players, bought more and probably been mid table in the last two seasons and still incurred a similar punishment. Probably 12pts.
    Very, very lastly… Everton have the 3rd lowest net spend (£38.3M in 5yrs) on transfers in the PL for the past 5 seasons, that includes sides relegated in that period. Only Luton and Brighton (who are in profit) have spent less.

26. It looks dire for City & Chelsea if Everton got 10 points deduction

27. Yes it is harsh and how and why have Man City not at all what a joke

28. Utter b/s it will be interesting to see what Chelsea and Man City get! c'mon the toffees. Y.N.W.A

29. Wow. How bad is Soccer Saturday now?

30. If action isn’t taken against city and Chelsea, Everton should get their points back

31. If it’s good enough for lower league teams to get deducted 10 points then it’s good enough for premiership clubs so stop bleating

32. I’m seeing a lot people say this deduction won’t matter because they’re only a few points back from 17th and it’ll galvanize the team. Maybe, maybe not. It’s not like Everton are some top flight club…this is a team that’s been in a relegation battle the last couple of years and has lost to Luton at home. They could rise to occasion or they could fold.

33. Im a liverpool fan but if a massive club like everton go into administration and end up in league 2 it will be a disaster for english football

    Man city – if they end up in league 2 its business as usual

34. No. Also are they going to do nothing about Man city & Chelsea?

35. As long as the football industry insist Mikel Arteta should be fined and banned for telling the truth about VAR. I have zero sympathy for Everton. Being fair shouldn't be selective.

37. Effects the people

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